{"id":3205,"date":"2012-08-02T07:48:22","date_gmt":"2012-08-02T06:48:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/?p=3205"},"modified":"2012-08-02T07:48:22","modified_gmt":"2012-08-02T06:48:22","slug":"new-experimental-tests-of-the-special-principle-of-relativity-1962","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/new-experimental-tests-of-the-special-principle-of-relativity-1962\/","title":{"rendered":"New experimental tests of the special principle of relativity 1962"},"content":{"rendered":"
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By Herbert Dingle<\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Beitrag aus dem GOM-Projekt: 2394 weitere kritische Ver\u00f6ffentlichungen <\/span><\/a>
\n<\/strong>zur Erg\u00e4nzung der Dokumentation<\/span><\/a><\/strong> Textversion 1.2 \u2013 2004, Kapitel 4. <\/em><\/p>\n

New experimental tests of the special principle of relativity 1962 [Diskussionsbeitrag]
\nIn: Royal Society of London. Proceedings. Ser. A, Vol. 270. 1962, S. 312.\n<\/p>\n

C. M\u00f6ller hat \u00fcber Experimente berichtet, das Relativit\u00e4tsprinzip der SRT mit gr\u00f6\u00dferer Genauigkeit zu testen, als es durch den MMV geschehen ist. Diskutiert ein Experiment mit 2 identischen Masern, deren Strahlen in entgegengesetzten Richtungen gehen: "according to the ether theory the direction of the ray, that is, the direction of the propagation of the energy in the wave, according to the ether theory, differs slightly from the direction of the wave normal on account of the aberration.<\/p>\n

[…] Two identical masers with opposite directions of the beam should therefore have a relative difference of frequency …" (S. 307). – In der Diskussion fragt Herbert Dingle (S. 312):<\/p>\n

"Am I right in thinking that these experiments are designed to distinguish only between the Lorentz and Einstein theories, and that everything which is common to both (for example, that an atom is a typical clock) is assumed? To put it in another way, is this a test of Einstein’s first postulate, namely, that no experiments will detect an absolute motion, while the second postulate, that the velocity of light is independent of the motion of the source, is taken for granted?" Nachdem M\u00f6ller bemerkt hat, er meine, da\u00df beide Dinge gepr\u00fcft werden, erwidert Dingle:<\/p>\n

"But if the second postulate, which is common to both theories, is assumed without question, then the most that can be expected from this experiment would be a result consistent with one theory and inconsistent with the other: that would not show whether the first theory was consistently right or consistently wrong.<\/p>\n

[Added later:] What I think is most needed now is a \u00a0d i r e c t \u00a0experimental test of the second postulate, i.e. a test in which velocities are measured (or compared) directly, and not deduced from an interpretation of the equation [c = Ny x Lambda], which is valid only if the velocity of light is indeed independent of the motion of its source. All such tests clearly involve a circular argument."<\/p>\n

— Fordert noch im Jahr 1962 – als die Theorie bereits als "bestbewiesene Theorie der Physik" ger\u00fchmt wird und nicht mehr kritisiert werden darf – endlich eine direkte Messung der Geschwindigkeiten zum Beweis der Behauptung, da\u00df die Lichtgeschwindigkeit unabh\u00e4ngig vom Bewegungszustand der Quelle ist. Die bisherigen Ableitungen dieser Behauptung beruhen alle auf einer Beziehung, die gerade nur dann gilt, wenn die Lichtgeschwindigkeit tats\u00e4chlich unabh\u00e4ngig von der Quelle ist: das zu Beweisende wird also schon vorausgesetzt, somit sind alle bisherigen Ableitungen zirkul\u00e4r und beweisen nichts f\u00fcr die Behauptung. <\/em><\/p>\n

Die zirkul\u00e4ren Beweisf\u00fchrungen im Geb\u00e4ude der SRT sind schon \u00f6fter aufgedeckt worden: so z. B. von Max Jammers f\u00fcr den Fehler K2 (E=mc\u00b2).\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u00a0 By Herbert Dingle\u00a0 Beitrag aus dem GOM-Projekt: 2394 weitere kritische Ver\u00f6ffentlichungen zur Erg\u00e4nzung der Dokumentation Textversion 1.2 \u2013 2004, Kapitel 4. New experimental tests of the special principle of relativity 1962 [Diskussionsbeitrag] In: Royal Society of London. Proceedings. Ser. A, Vol. 270. 1962, S. 312.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3205","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-projekt"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3205"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3205"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3205\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3205"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3205"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ekkehard-friebe.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3205"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}